
All things considered, I’d rather be reading your journey, speaking with and or listening to you, because I type poorly, am lazy so it’s a chore sometimes. But I guess that’s not fair, so I’ll try and pry myself outa laziness.
Neat thing out here is the voices you get to hear, I’ve found a family of journeyers and they actually bother to listen as well as speak. Thanks and thanks for your encouragement.
I heard a voice once and no one was there, and I don’t wear aluminum foil hats to keep the Martians from beaming thoughts into my head, I know my own thoughts.
Everyone it seems is dealt a random hand some live long some die young, some are rich some are poor, some are sick some are relatively healthy, some struggle with depression. I have had some serious bouts with depression and one day I woke up and had come to an end. I was pissed off because I woke up again, I’d had it. So I went into a room by myself and sat down put my feet up on a desk and began to reason in myself. I wasn’t talking to anyone just myself nor was I looking to or for God at the moment. I was at the lowest of lows and it went something like this.
I reasoned thus, you know you’ll probably never have any kind of satisfying career you’ve tried pretty much everything you can think of and nothing ever seems to work out, and I couldn’t agree more. Then I reasoned you know you’ll probably never be married have a family someone to come home to, you don’t seem to excel in the relationship department as a matter of fact you seem to suck at it, your always sabotage relationships, so anyway you’ll most likely never have a special someone, I couldn’t agree more, at the time that one stung the most. And on I went reasoning should I stay or should I go, and all the reasoning seemed to point to the go column, one after the other, lined up in the cons, there were no pros to be found. Ya follow?
Then I reasoned thus, you know, on top of all this, you are a coward for your God, you’re no example, you’re no shining light, who in their right mind would want your God for being exposed to you??? And I couldn’t agree more. At just that moment I heard a voice, like I said; I know my own thoughts and do not wear metal hats to keep the aliens from telling me stuff.
To the best of my recollection this is what the voice said. “ I understand, pause, but I have done a great and mighty deed for you, pause, would you consider doing this one thing for me, would you stay here a little while longer and after a little while I will send for you or I will come and receive you unto myself.” The voice said nothing more, I was dumb struck and very amazed, then the fear of death was removed from over me, that fear you have that keeps you from playing in traffic or standing to close to the ledge of a high place, it was gone, it was as if the voice was saying, “there I have removed your last obstacle you may come home now if you want”, the voice didn’t say it but that is the strong impression that I received. (Permission to die.)
At this point I would like you to note the first words out of the voices mouth, just two words, “I understand”, that is not the voice I am use to, the voice that was familiar to me up to that point would have said something more along the lines of,” what were you thinking or why would you do something as stupid as that, or what did you expect considering the way you’ve gone about it”. Have you heard that voice? I have, and still do.
Also note that the voice made no demands, none, I didn’t have to perform for the voice as a matter of fact the voice found me, I wasn’t looking for it. Years prior to this I had ask for forgiveness and sought the voice but on my own terms or the terms of those that I thought were better qualified, (“Brokers” to borrow a term) for the most part.
I’ve shared this story with more than one IC professional, these people are fools at least the ones that I’m thinking of; some even told me that God would never give one “permission to die”. A few of these IC professionals even have the audacity to liken themselves as wonderful consolers. How they love to point to themselves.

In some IC’s foot washing is made into a real drama, some guys will even wash a family members feet to put on a show, it sickens me because when Jesus washed feet, he did it in secret, he didn’t parade his friends before the congregation, to put on drama , and show how much he cared for these guy’s, it happened in an upper room, there were no witnesses. It’s not a lot of wonder, when you walk into most big churches you get the impression your in a theater and that is usually what you get, Theater. If you wanna wash something so bad, why not wash some ones car, chances are that the guy already had a shower that morning and your just doing it for kudos anyways and most of the time it’s the guy’s car that needs a bath course that wouldn’t make for good drama on Sunday would it ???
I’d much rather be reading you, yes even the sound of your voice, I find more soothing than any sermon I’ve sat through. You are the Lions. Make no mistake about it. The above mentioned are the fools and phony’s.
Oh and by the way, I went on to turn that awesome gift of the voice into a reason to be puffed up, just like Peters little walk on the water, I reasoned that hey I must be pretty special because the voice has spoken to me, If there’s a way to screw it up just like Pete, I’ll find it, I can be a pretty big fool myself. So in conclusion, I understand these fools, I do not excuse them, they have chosen to buy into one lie at a time until they liken themselves to “Wonderful consolers”, sorry but that position has already been filled and it aint you..
I guess the best you can do is point to the voice, don’t try and impersonate Him, because if you do, then, in the end all you’ll have to show for it is wood hey and stubble and you will thank Him for burning it, who would want to go though eternity dragging around a load of crap, especially when it comes time to throw the precious things to His feet, would you wanna be throwing your garbage??? No I’ll thank Him for burning mine, and I think for the most part we’ll beg him to burn it, see everything He dose is motivated by …
Neat thing out here is the voices you get to hear, I’ve found a family of journeyers and they actually bother to listen as well as speak. Thanks and thanks for your encouragement.
I heard a voice once and no one was there, and I don’t wear aluminum foil hats to keep the Martians from beaming thoughts into my head, I know my own thoughts.
Everyone it seems is dealt a random hand some live long some die young, some are rich some are poor, some are sick some are relatively healthy, some struggle with depression. I have had some serious bouts with depression and one day I woke up and had come to an end. I was pissed off because I woke up again, I’d had it. So I went into a room by myself and sat down put my feet up on a desk and began to reason in myself. I wasn’t talking to anyone just myself nor was I looking to or for God at the moment. I was at the lowest of lows and it went something like this.
I reasoned thus, you know you’ll probably never have any kind of satisfying career you’ve tried pretty much everything you can think of and nothing ever seems to work out, and I couldn’t agree more. Then I reasoned you know you’ll probably never be married have a family someone to come home to, you don’t seem to excel in the relationship department as a matter of fact you seem to suck at it, your always sabotage relationships, so anyway you’ll most likely never have a special someone, I couldn’t agree more, at the time that one stung the most. And on I went reasoning should I stay or should I go, and all the reasoning seemed to point to the go column, one after the other, lined up in the cons, there were no pros to be found. Ya follow?
Then I reasoned thus, you know, on top of all this, you are a coward for your God, you’re no example, you’re no shining light, who in their right mind would want your God for being exposed to you??? And I couldn’t agree more. At just that moment I heard a voice, like I said; I know my own thoughts and do not wear metal hats to keep the aliens from telling me stuff.
To the best of my recollection this is what the voice said. “ I understand, pause, but I have done a great and mighty deed for you, pause, would you consider doing this one thing for me, would you stay here a little while longer and after a little while I will send for you or I will come and receive you unto myself.” The voice said nothing more, I was dumb struck and very amazed, then the fear of death was removed from over me, that fear you have that keeps you from playing in traffic or standing to close to the ledge of a high place, it was gone, it was as if the voice was saying, “there I have removed your last obstacle you may come home now if you want”, the voice didn’t say it but that is the strong impression that I received. (Permission to die.)
At this point I would like you to note the first words out of the voices mouth, just two words, “I understand”, that is not the voice I am use to, the voice that was familiar to me up to that point would have said something more along the lines of,” what were you thinking or why would you do something as stupid as that, or what did you expect considering the way you’ve gone about it”. Have you heard that voice? I have, and still do.
Also note that the voice made no demands, none, I didn’t have to perform for the voice as a matter of fact the voice found me, I wasn’t looking for it. Years prior to this I had ask for forgiveness and sought the voice but on my own terms or the terms of those that I thought were better qualified, (“Brokers” to borrow a term) for the most part.
I’ve shared this story with more than one IC professional, these people are fools at least the ones that I’m thinking of; some even told me that God would never give one “permission to die”. A few of these IC professionals even have the audacity to liken themselves as wonderful consolers. How they love to point to themselves.

In some IC’s foot washing is made into a real drama, some guys will even wash a family members feet to put on a show, it sickens me because when Jesus washed feet, he did it in secret, he didn’t parade his friends before the congregation, to put on drama , and show how much he cared for these guy’s, it happened in an upper room, there were no witnesses. It’s not a lot of wonder, when you walk into most big churches you get the impression your in a theater and that is usually what you get, Theater. If you wanna wash something so bad, why not wash some ones car, chances are that the guy already had a shower that morning and your just doing it for kudos anyways and most of the time it’s the guy’s car that needs a bath course that wouldn’t make for good drama on Sunday would it ???
I’d much rather be reading you, yes even the sound of your voice, I find more soothing than any sermon I’ve sat through. You are the Lions. Make no mistake about it. The above mentioned are the fools and phony’s.
Oh and by the way, I went on to turn that awesome gift of the voice into a reason to be puffed up, just like Peters little walk on the water, I reasoned that hey I must be pretty special because the voice has spoken to me, If there’s a way to screw it up just like Pete, I’ll find it, I can be a pretty big fool myself. So in conclusion, I understand these fools, I do not excuse them, they have chosen to buy into one lie at a time until they liken themselves to “Wonderful consolers”, sorry but that position has already been filled and it aint you..
I guess the best you can do is point to the voice, don’t try and impersonate Him, because if you do, then, in the end all you’ll have to show for it is wood hey and stubble and you will thank Him for burning it, who would want to go though eternity dragging around a load of crap, especially when it comes time to throw the precious things to His feet, would you wanna be throwing your garbage??? No I’ll thank Him for burning mine, and I think for the most part we’ll beg him to burn it, see everything He dose is motivated by …
Grace, it’s for fools too, we need it, lots of Him.
ps. the morning after I posted this someone sent me a short cut to a random quote for an unrelated mater, here is the quote. >>>
"Candor is always a double-edged sword; it may heal or it may separate."
~ Wilhelm Stekel
"Candor is always a double-edged sword; it may heal or it may separate."
~ Wilhelm Stekel
Best
Leonard
Leonard
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amazing voice of God
soft yet strong
comforting yet powerful
speaking to the heart and soul
enveloping our whole being
receive full grace
allow God to give full grace
to all
through you
in Love
in Christ
your sister
n.
Leonard,
This is a wonderful post. I could so "hear" your heart through the words you wrote here. Papa has...and is walking you through your Journey so beautifully, my brother.
Blessings,
~Amy :)
Great, authentic thoughts Leonard!
“permission to die”.
In other words, no fear of death. After all, what can death do to us? If we are absent from the body, we are present with Jesus.
Death cannot separate us from the love of God.
We are in the one who said, "I am the resurrection"!
Much love and grace to you, brother!
ps
you are an excellent writer
It is indeed good to know that there are others out there both listening and speaking as Father guides them.
Hi NaNcY, Grace sure is amazing, but I still do get in His way allot, so I guess He aint done with me yet... Thank you for that discerning comment, like I said, like your style...
thanks again.
Best
Leonard
Hi Amy, thanks for forwarding the warm breezes, in more ways then one.
Best
and Hi to Howie.
Leonard
Hi Bino, I may be in the Motor later this week or early next, Ill ring when I know for sure, hope coffee works out this time...
Yes it's great to know there really is something that cant be screwed up no matter what we do.
Much love and Grace backatcha.
Best
Hi to Smita and kids
Thank you Bro.
Leonard
ps. hey ya know the dino thing that Joel started, well here's one for ya. I use my out look express for spell checking comments and it always wants to change Bino to Bingo, don't worry I wont tell Joel...
NaNcY, your getting kinda generous, wouldn't want me to get a big head would ya ... Kidding aside ,,, Thank you.
Best to you and yours.
Leonard
Hi Mark, Yes it really helps and I think that's key about being guided.. Keep reminding me of that.
Thanks and Best to all your house.
Leonard
so glad you posted again Leonard! On voices none the less! Cheers to the voice of our God! I enjoyed this piece of you and thank you for sending me to Gilly's place....and i'm sorry you can never find me on line....i don't have the program activated on this computer and i'm never on line with my laptop....therefore i didn't receive your "test"....sorry!
Leonard, did you get my first comment on this post? I don't think it went through and I'm too lazy to rewrite it :0)
Bingo!!! :)
Hey great to know that you will be over here, brother! Just coffee? Let's do lunch (if you are here at lunch time)...
Looking forward to it...
The words flow so naturally from your pen... glad you're back posting again, enjoyed this mucho.
Jules
Hi Yvette, Its a pretty quick download but space maybe an issue on your laptop, neat thing about messenger is you can voice with the people on your buddy list just like being on the phone and its free.... yes I'm trying to Tempt you into download...
I thought you'd like Gilly, birds of a feather and all....
Cheers backatcha Sis and thanks for these encouraging words...
Your the Best.
Leonard
Hi again Yvette, thanks for the double, makes me look popular,,,LOL. anyway I was away from the net most of the day so I'm just now publishing comments... Keep sending warm weather northward, it was cold again today...
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Leonard
Hey Bino, still not for sure on motor, what's happened is a friend who now resides in New Orleans has come home to Mi. for an unexpected visit,, the best kind,, and he wants to visit his Bro in Detroit so I may ride down with him, he will let me use his car, so if your in town I'll be able to meet up with ya. I will call ya soon, when I know something for sure.
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me
Hi Jules, Thank you, I rather like the sound of your voice...
Hey I haven't had time to work that album cover yet but that's ok cause I tagged you at Joel's Google meme post, and you never got back about it... So its still your turn...
Best always
U.
I enjoy your journey very much, it resonates deeply within me.
Hi Mark, Thank you for the encouragement, I'm trying to learn to sit back and enjoy the ride myself...
Best
Leonard
ps. so have you joined face book yet or shall I sick Heather on ya ???
Leonard,
Yes, these are the kind that even YOU like to read. We all do. Thank you for daring to show your real self.
WE know that you are special... just hopin' that YOU know it! It's not easy to bear the soul before the world, but I think that, at least for me, not to, is to stunt my growth.
You are free to be you, Leonard, struggles, heartaches, and all. Anyone who can't handle it, isn't worth the effort it takes to worry about 'em.
May you hear HIs voice, above all others, and feel His heart beating for you. If you could only see how truly fond of you He is.
I'm praying that you get lost in His embrace. And, when you do... you'll find that you aren't alone there!
You're a precious brother, and one whom Papa has not left behind... if you look carefully, He's got His fingerprints all over your life. He has no intention of letting you drift off into never never land, as if you don't count. I know your mind tries to tell you that.
He jealously longs for your heart, because He sees in you, the diamond that HE created, lying underneath all those rough, chiseled edges.
You know, when I saw that picture of you as a child, that you briefly used on Facebook, I saw the precious little boy that I believe Papa still sees today. I saw hope and innocence and wonder and optimism. Just as my heart melts, at the sight of that little boy... so does Papa's... still... and, I don't care how old you are, now. In Papa's eyes you're still that sweet little boy, that He longs to hold, until you're able to fully receive His love.
He's the healer of 'chronic depression,' too, ya
know. Don't stop askin' Him. But, don't push Him away, in the meantime, either. Be willing to accept His pure love of you... as that little boy. You're so very precious to Him, my friend!
Be careful of the voices you listen to. Only one counts. :)
Good morning FS. What a great piece of mail that was to wake up to, no wonder Charlie Brown had a thing for the little red haired girl...
Thanks so much,,, much to ponder on here...
Best
Leonard
ps.. the little red haired girl still owes me a dance....
Thanks for sharing a part of your story.
I love your observations about wood, hay, and stubble. -We should be begging God to get rid of it in our lives...yet we seem to wear them a trophies. Only the Master can break that off us. (Better now than later)
Looking forward to chatting with you again!
Hey Leonard, Where's that cool lion logo ???
Amen to the Masters Business and yes better now then later. Also looking forward to talking with you, but I really like that Logo, lets get with the program buddy.... :-)
Best and glad to know you made it back home ok...
Leonard
Hey Leonard, I really appreciate your candor here. So many things it depends on the point of view and I appreciate yours! Like the foot washing, it does seem that many ceremonial things are given so much merit in church while practical things are overlooked. I like what you said about begging Jesus to burn up our trash, being glad to see it go. At IC, they make you afraid you'll feel ashamed of all the useless waste of your life. But I love your point of view, that it will be a relief.
Hi Amy, Thanks for sharing your journey, I really liked that last post of yours.. Also, totally understand about time constraints on that other matter.. Here's what I had in mind >>>
http://blog.graceroots.org/2009/03/recover-your-good-heart-study-tonight_15.html
Just thought you'd enjoy the discussion and fellowship..
Best to you and yours
Leonard
ps. that takes place on Sunday evenings, I have company this weekend and will probably miss it tomorrow and we'll be taking a couple of weeks off soon to start a different book.
ps. ps. still think you have the best handle,,, lionwomen,,, now thats a gooden...
ooops I meant Lionwoman...
hope He burns my spelling skills and gives me better ones...
Man... Your candor did some serious healing for us, especially as lately we've been experiencing plenty of the flip-side...
We've spent plenty of time as well, sitting in rooms, reasoning to ourselves, concluding that there's no point to it all anymore...
Amazing how God's voice breaks through, even when all we can think about is what a failure we are...
Thank you, thank you, for being so real here. The voices are indeed real, both kinds, and we know what you mean about the thought that people might think we're some kinda weirdo, with foil on our heads, if we started talking about all those voices... It sure isn't covered in the professional's manual!
But thank God it doesn't even matter... Who of us, when our lives are layed bare, would fit nice and neat into some theologian's chart? So what if what God said to you doesn't make sense to the "professionals"... It definitely made sense to us, not as some morbid thing, but as God effectively saying, "You have nothing to fear in facing Me"...
I don't know if you realize how much we can relate to what you shared here, it's just amazing... Even though we all have unique lives, we can all experience that feeling of, "My life is nothing special, why the in the world would God give a rip about me..."
But He does, He just does! I'll never really get why, but that's okay.
This kinda feels like a group of people, standing around a big campfire, encouraging each other to just let the hay, wood, stubble burn away...
Let it burn...
Love you man, Daniel
Hi Daniel, I've got allot of encouragement out here that comment will go down in the top drawer. I'm pretty sure some will misunderstand so I cant tell ya how good it is to be understood so I too cant begin to thank you's back for sharing that, but Thanks Crosby's.
Best
Leonard
ps. I ran some errands today one was PO. I mailed a couple of hats that my mom made they had been sitting on the couch for some time, anyways finally mailed em.. send pics when ya's get em so I can show mom. thanks.
I can't say too much, except I so understood what you were saying, like "wow", it was enlightening and yet so familiar. I have sort of not been blogging much because separating seemed more the norm than healing....
I am just getting into going back to some of the great thoughts of some great writers out there...many I have come across just recently, like yourself....spelling means nothing ...I sadly use a lot of dots because my gramma' is bad. Anyway that aside was totally unnecessary but I am not rewriting anything...anyway I am looking forward to a big bonfire in the end and this fool is grateful for the Grace and Realness of this post that I attribute to Jesus of course...that Voice....that One True Thing.
In Him,
Vanessa
Hi Vanessa, Thanks for your thoughts here, also I think allot of people including myself have backed off a little with the on line thing, my theory is because were getting busier being that spring is here and its nice to get out... Hey do you know if were meeting tomorrow ???
Thanks again and let me know..
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U.
OK... now I don't want to hear another word about it!!
You best get on over to my blog!! :)
Of course, I'm assuming that you're already in bed for tonight. So got to my blog in the morning!! (It won't be there till then)
heh heh heh,,, time to turn up the heat on Joel....
just checkin in to say
hey!
Hey backatcha, Thanks NaNcY...
ps. nice logo...
leonardo, sounds like He was giving you permission to die to yourself, so that he can come in and live through you. what a great piece. or should i say peace? i heard the voice once too, just once. it changed me forever. i too got a little puffed over it. now i live with the fear of never hearing that voice again.
ah well.
i am glad he signed your permission slip.
chas.
Chas, yes that too but the main thrust for me was, listen son I've paid for that too, "murder", and there's nothing you can do to screw it up, your in my hand...
anyway this was a good post for you to comment on cus this blogging thing has grown legs and has taken on life of its own, see I met ya though other bloggers that bugged me to join fb and the cool thing is the comradery that this adventure has morphed into... Its great getting to know ya and speak with ya on messenger and that was the kinda the gist of this post.
Thanks for your friendship
Best
Leonard
BTW somehow I knew you were familiar with that voice.
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hi leonard :-)
Hi NaNcY, I just sent you a message on yahoo messenger my buddy list still says "NaNcy Add request pending" cool thing about yahoo is you can voice with your blog buddies, but only on downloaded version, so if I catch ya on line we can yack it up sometime...
Best
U.
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